Re: Standing rigging replacement

Kim Chapman

Fortunately my mast is already down. A requirement of storing a boat in a cat5 boatyard such as Hinckley in Stuart.

The rigging on a 400 is easily replaced, one wire at a time. When all four lower shrouds are secure and snug the mast isn't going anywhere, even without the other wires in place. Although when changing the stays it's always prudent to have a redundant halyard in place...K-)


---------- Original Message ----------
From: Fritz Feiten <fritz.feiten@...>
Date: August 23, 2020 at 11:15 AM

I’m curious if replacing the standing rigging requires removing the mast or if it is done with the mast up, one piece at a time. I’ve not had to replace rigging on other boats I‘ve owned, but my 1997 C400 is due. 

The late Brion Toss evaluated my rig two years ago and could not find any obvious signs of degradation. He pointed out that rigging lasts longer in the rain at 48 degrees north than it does closer to the equator due to the reduced air salinity. That said, I was dismasted in a meltemi in Greece many years ago from a failed upper shroud, and don’t wish to repeat the experience. 


Fritz Feiten

On Aug 23, 2020, at 4:46 AM, chic lasser via <chiclasser1@...> wrote:

I work for Mack Sails and Rigging and more than happy to get you some pricing. I try to work with fellow owners and offer a better price than going directly thru the loft. Let me know you can reach me off line at Chiclasser1@.... Chic 


On Aug 22, 2020, at 11:33 PM, Alan Johnson < alanwilliamjohnson@...> wrote:

I replaced the standing rigging on two boats. A H37 C and on my C400. Seaco South of Florida did both. On the H37C they did the original rigging and just sent it to me and I replaced it wire by wire. I think they also had the specs on the C400 also. As i recall replacement cost was $1200 plus labor (my own) to install. 

Alan J #130

On Sat, Aug 22, 2020, 8:38 PM Ken < kdg_1@...> wrote:
Call Mack Sails they do full service rigging as well.

From: <> on behalf of orion320@... <orion320@...>
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2020 6:40:11 PM
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Subject: Re: [C400] Standing rigging replacement
I just had my standing rigging replaced this spring in Corpus Christi, TX.  Expect to spend around $4,000 if you use your existing turnbuckles.  I waited too long to replace mine (17 years) but there was no sign of imminent failure.  I have been in salt the whole time (San Francisco and the Gulf of Mexico) and I knew I was living on borrowed time.

I hope you can find a good rigger at a reasonable price.  You got your money's worth on the original rigging.

S/V Independence
San Francisco, CA
C-400 #284

On Saturday, August 22, 2020, 5:28:39 PM CDT, Kim Chapman < kim.chapman@...> wrote:

So I'm replacing the standing rigging this year. 13 years on Lake Ontario and 7 years in Florida/Bahamas and the wire is showing rust bleeding through from the inner strands. I guess 20 years is a reasonable life.

Unfortunately the boat is in Stuart, Florida, and I'm in Toronto so I need to rely on someone else to do something I'd rather manage myself. I'm stored at the Hinckley yard in Stuart and have gotten to know the local rigger that does most of that sort of work in their yard. I'll probably just give the rigger at Hinckley the go ahead to get the job done but I would like to get a second quote for the job.

Wondering if anyone has any suggestions on who I could engage in Stuart.

Also wondering what a reasonable price is for the new wire, swages, and swaging effort.


Kim Chapman
C400 #249

Kim Chapman





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